8am riots, smashing up cells, killings!

[petulant]

I always get a few rioting prisoners at 8am, it's getting worse as i get more prisoners and normally includes a death row prisoner in a luxury cell, i figure the way around it is to modify when the prisoners shower and eat but for the death row prisoners i can't do that as they have their food brought to them and have no regime, does anybody have a suggestion?

[D11_Nat]

All of my morning riots tend to be hygiene related, so I normally just tweak the shower timings until we're no longer getting critical needs. Since Death Row doesn't have a regime you've got two options: 1) Let them kick off and dole out punishment to keep them suppressed, or 2) Give them awesome kitted-out cells which meet all of their needs and make them less likely to riot. I feel like guards deliver food in line with the time set for Med Sec but I'm not sure on that one.

Nat D11

[petulant]

Thanks, i have a dozen death row prisoners all in luxury cells but there's always one who goes bonkers every morning and he just keeps going even after being taken to solitary, once the guards beat him to death and i just let them because as soon as the doctor healed him he'd start right up again smashing up his solitary cell and attacking the workmen when they went to fix the solitary door. The only answer seems to be to execute him but the bad death row prisoner is normally a long way to go before approved execution.

[D11_Nat]

@barticle pointed out in another thread that there's a more permanent solution to troublesome inmates, wherein someone 'accidentally' perma-locks the door and forgets where they left the key for a few days. I'm too much of a wimp to neglect my inmates to death but the option is there D:

Nat D11

[regeneration64]

I'm having a similar problem/entertainment with my current legendary prisoner. He also has a luxury cell and frequently smashes up his cell and then goes on a killing spree when the guards try and restrain him. He's 21 and currently serving 610 years in SuperMax for murder and torture.

Not only does he have his own cell but he also has his own cell block. Complete with 19 other cells (in case he gets any future neighbours), yard, canteen, kitchen and solitary cell (in frequent use). 2 armed guards, 3 guards and a perimeter dog patrol. His needs are quite low but he's extremely volatile and an alcoholic.

Losing the no incidents daily bonus is annoying so to try and rectify this I have tried punishing him which doesn't work because - like you said - he just kicks off as soon as solitary has finished. To make it worse, my prisoner is stoical so he doesn't get suppressed. You could consider permanent solitary confinement but I don't think that's an option for death row inmates as they are, of course, on permanent lockdown. I may be wrong.

Option 2 was reform. My prisoner is an alcoholic and I have (somehow) managed to get him onto the reform programme. The issue now is that he doesn't attend so he isn't going to pass it. However, I have noticed that he doesn't crave alcohol as much even for just being enrolled on the course... He seems to be skipping the programme because of the punishments being dished out so you could always alter these on the relevant screen to make sure that a prisoner attends a programme.

If anyone has any suggestions as to how to get a troublesome prisoner to attend programmes to keep there needs down then please say!

I am currently going for a third option which is simply containment. Keep the prisoner isolated so that they don't interfere with the rest of your prison. You'll have a lot of property damage and a few deaths to staff (especially when they steal a shotgun from armed guards) but this can be nipped in the bud quickly with enough guards nearby no matter how 'legendary' they think they are.

That seems to be working for me. Punishment, reform and containment. If you aren't enjoying the prisoner rioting constantly then the fourth option is to eliminate him. Put freefire on when things escalate. Final option is to, as suggested, lock the cell door (or two so they don't escape) and stave them to death.

Personally, I get a fair bit of entertainment value from having the maniac prisoner in my prison and I do generally want to help him to behave but sometimes the only way is out (in a body bag).

[D11_Nat]

Yeah it's one of those things, really. If you want a nice calm prison, stick to min sec! I generally don't bother with Super Max because I get too mad

Nat D11

[regeneration64]

By way of an update, my prisoner died yesterday after 27 days in my prison

The containment strategy was going well but after he obtained a shotgun twice from armed guards I had to put freefire on. Interestingly, they only knocked him unconscious the first few times but did eventually shoot him dead.

[D11_Nat]

Man, he sounds like he was a real douchebag.

Nat D11

[fusedtimeline]

They can't kick off if in cuffs use 24 lockdown punishment and spam it. I find this a good way to make them quit their legendary status.